However, as DPeterson points out, “relapse” is correct and concise. In any case, I do not personally prefer the current wording over the wording you suggest, and I can understand why one might feel the use of “relapse” pathologizes homosexuality. But “mine is bigger than yours!” hardly seems like a good solution. As an English scholar, I can tell you that the OED is more authoritative than the AHD. You *might* have a case if the OED said specifically, "relapse has no negative connotations." ~] 00:14, 12 June 2007 (UTC) I am not sure what to do with a dictionary war. Wikipedia:Words_to_avoid#Claim, for example, cites the American Heritage Dictionary, and it is sufficient evidence for my negative connotations claim. DPeterson talk 23:58, 11 June 2007 (UTC) We are not bound to using only the OED. Relapse if more accurate and just plain better English than the longer phrase your suggest. ~] 00:03, 12 June 2007 (UTC) Actually, the OED is the definitive reference regarding defs. People who view the therapy's consequences as suppression probably believe " relapse" is the improvement. Also, I don't see how it is not POV to treat the patient's opinion as fact. Joie de Vivre 23:50, 11 June 2007 (UTC) The American Heritage Dictionary's second definition for relapse is, "To regress after partial recovery from illness." This definitely indicates its negative connotations. We can just describe what the euphemism means and be done with it. Referring to "returning to homosexual behavior", definitively, as "a relapse" is POV and not necessary. Particularly, the two uses do not refer to the behavior in terms of how the individuals themselves view it, it is a generalized reference. This is particularly true as you can discuss with editors, we cannot discuss with a dictionary. In this vein, it should be treated mainly as a guide, not to back the idea that a usage is inoffensive and unchallengeable.
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LCP 23:34, 11 June 2007 (UTC) The OED is not the definitive reference manual as to whether a certain word usage is always appropriate. (3) Disregarding #2, the OED definition proves that the term is NPOV. (2) Even if we disregarded the OED, those who have undergone RT would arguably view a return to homosexual behavior as a very negative thing. Apart from being original research, it doesn't stand up to the OED-which has more authority in lexical matters than does personal, every day experience. Joie de Vivre 23:22, 11 June 2007 (UTC) Three things: (1) kinda is using a "common sense" argument. There are only two uses of the term in the article, which can and should be made more NPOV by making these substitutions. ~] 23:11, 11 June 2007 (UTC) I think you meant "not NPOV"? "Relapse" is frequently used to refer to a backsliding into drug or alcohol abuse it has a negative connotation. also, "relapse" implies the 'effects' of the therapy were more than a pretense. The act or an instance of backsliding, worsening, or subsiding.to slip or fall back into a former or rose state.relapse into deep thought" DPeterson talk 22:53, 11 June 2007 (UTC) "relapse" implies the subject is slipping back into negativity, (here, homosexuality) which is not POV. My Webster's has it defined as, "to slide back. My OED does not have this as a medical term.
#Ibehave therapy group update#
5 American Psychiatric Association Update.